in the prosecution's case. there were questions over whether the fbi had engaged in some inappropriate activity. the judge said that mr. renzi and mr. sandlin were good men who did bad things. i will say that it is dirty rare for a judge to give defendants -- it is pretty rare for a judge to give defendants who are fighting tooth and nail and give them the benefit of the doubt. >> do you think that, considering any other place, do you think arizona had some thing to do with it? >> i think the judge seemed to be affected by the fact that this was a former congressman who was once well respected in the state. that the congressman's family pushed that he was a family man with lots of kids come a man of faith. rarely, do you see other criminal defendants getting the same benefit of the debt when they had done something so blatantly illegal. most people are caught red- handed and he never took responsibility. usually, these lighter sentences are handed down some and he accepts responsibly for their action, plead guilty and said, yeah, i did something wrong and here's why i did this that thing i did.